Transcript from an exclusive interview featuring Nick 'The Griffin' Griffin MEP, Cllr. Clive 'Jeffers' Jefferson and Simon D-D-Darby talking about their new music venture on Radio RWB.
Presenter: So then fella's, here we are again, in Simon's bedroom recording yet another interview using some free software, Clive, why don't you start us off with why you're here today?
Clive: Where?
Nick: Well, you see, we decided to form a band, a new band...
Simon: Something rocking!
Presenter: Explain...
Nick: We've all had musical ventures in the past, quite successful ones too, I myself penned several songs on some very successful nationalist CD's we sold, and Clive here, he sings an excellent rendition of 'In the Navy' down at his local on a Friday night, and Simon has spent his Friday nights singing on Singstar with some female activist in the past...
Simon: Young, young female activist Nick...
Presenter: So you all got together and what? Just threw some ideas around? Because you do work together quite a lot, and you're all busy?
Simon: It was difficult getting us all together, but where there's a way there's a will, as they say...
Nick: More or less the case, we knew we wanted to form a band and make some money, we had to come up with a name first though, we had loads of ideas, we all settled on something ending in 'With Attitude', partly because it's original, it's catchy and it can be formed into an acronym making it easy to remember.
Simon: We just had to decide on the other half of the name, this was the tricky part.
Nick: Clive wanted 'Councillors With Attitude' and Simon wanted 'Press Officers with Attitude', I wanted 'British National Party With Attitude'.
Simon: None of them seemed to encompass all three of us, I'm not a member of the BNP any more, so the BNPWA just wouldn't work, nor am I a councillor, we needed something that would really say what we're about, Nick came up with it though...
Presenter: Nationalists With Attitude!
Nick: Yes! Or NWA. This is where it all got exciting,
Simon: N! W! A! It just sounds cool!
Nick: N! W! A!
Clive: N! A! W!
Simon: And with such a 'down with the kids' name we had to then choose names for ourselves, to match it's snazziness, to stitch coolness through the patchwork of our record, we wanted the NWA idea to go beyond music.
Nick: I went for Nick 'The Griffin' Griffin MEP, it really says what I'm about, a legendary creature with the body of a lion and the head and wings of an eagle. As the lion was traditionally considered the king of the beasts and the eagle was the king of the birds, the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature, and Griffins are known for guarding treasure and priceless possessions, so it just worked! You know, it just worked. I didn't even realise it myself, I had to look on Wikipedia to find out what a Griffin was.
Presenter: And what about you Clive?
Clive: Huh?
Simon: Clive's was quite simple, we just used his nick name, and mine came from doing a few demos first, I had trouble choosing a name, it's like choosing a fine £5 wine, but once we had mixed a few tunes, D-D-Darby really seemed to have something about it, something cool and out there, out of the box, you know.
Presenter: Yes, well, the three of you certainly sound cool now, so tell me... where did it go from there?
Nick: Well, you see, we needed money first, so we sent out some letters to the membership asking for something, i don't know, to do with Britain, and when the first £15 came in, after a few months, we went out and bought a microphone, Clive already had a Casio keyboard from years ago and I didn't really need anything but a pen and paper, you know, just to write out the lyrics...
Simon: These things take time, we had an election to win, but we figured, seeing as we did so well in 2009, we could just leave the electioneering to other people and crack on with our music..
Nick: We started writing first, lyrics first and then music is what we said. It worked, we had several songs written in a few hours, I don't know what Joey used to whinge about.
Presenter: Why was Joey Smith not involved on this project?
Nick: We wanted it to be a challenge, he has had such a successful career, selling in excess of ten albums now I believe...
Clive: His mum bought eight of them...
Nick: We wanted it to be difficult, so people couldn't turn around and say, well, you had Joey Smith, there's no wonder you did so well. The left wing press are so mean to us in everything we do, we wanted something they couldn't have a dig at...
Presenter: And what was it that inspired you?
Nick: Money...
Simon: I've always wanted people to like me...
Presenter: But what actually inspired you on this record, what went into the songs?
Nick: Well, you see, modern music is dominated by darkies, and homo's, and other funny types, mostly Americans too, we wanted something British, but we knew it had to sell, otherwise, what's the point? I don't just do something for no return...
Simon: Did that owl sanctuary ever pay you?
Nick: No, legal proceedings are taking place as we speak...
Simon: Good! Fucking owls!
Clive: Is there no food in this house?
Nick: Clive, Simon, please, your leader is talking here...
Simon: You said in this music business we were all equals?
Nick: The music had to be something different too, and our nationalist edge was it, most nationalist music is a bit shit, that last record Joey did, let's say, it's as well it isn't just about the music...
Presenter: So the inspiration came through a lack of British orientated music in Britain?
Nick: Yes, well, there are British acts out there, but they aren't truly British, how many of them can trace their ancestry back to before 1066? The things they sing about aren't British either, we wanted to make sure that British ears were listening to British artists singing about British things.
Simon: And obviously...
Nick: People will listen to a song over and over again and take all the words in, in a way that you would be very lucky to get one in 100 of them to listen to a speech. Music is a very effective way of getting our views across...
Simon: Obviously, our music transcended barriers, it went far beyond nationalist issues, but there was a nationalist core, a beating heart of defiance in every song!
Clive: What does transcend mean?
Simon: Never mind Clive.
Clive: Core? What does core mean?
Simon: Like an apple core...
Presenter: What would you say was the most challenging aspect of this project?
Nick: Finding time, we're all busy, Clive was busy driving the truth truck, Simon is always... what is it you do? and I like to go to Europe to pretend I'm a politician. It was difficult...
Simon: But we did it, we just had to say, right, let's all meet up and get going, it's easier for me I suppose, I don't even have a proper job, but Clive I know is very busy, and Nick is just a demon when it comes to working, he recently won Hardest Working MEP in the BNP you know...
Presenter: Well done Nick!
Nick: Thank you, these things just come naturally to me.
Presenter: So what now? Do you have any interest in the record? Any contracts? Any plans for another record?
Nick: Well of course we have plans for more, we had so much fun doing it, but we'll see how many million we sell first and play it from there before we commit to anything...
Simon: We're still waiting to hear from EMI and some other smaller record companies, but if they aren't interested, we'll go with Great White, we just wanted to give a smaller company a chance first.
Presenter: Who designed the record sleeve?
Nick: Simon did, we wanted something simple. But eye catching.
Simon: I wanted a picture of me on it, next to something British.
Nick; We agreed it had to either have all three of us on, or none of us, and because Clive is quite, well, he isn't very photogenic shall we say, we decided to just have a picture of me on it. I am the face of the BNP, and the British people, I didn't want it to be this way, if it had been down to me, all three of us would be on there, but our marketing team know best, and they said it was the way to go.
Presenter: So beyond music and attitude, coolness and style, what else went into the record?
Simon: Nick wanted to put 1066 songs on there, as a big up yours to the establishment, but we just couldn't do it.
Presenter: You could have named track ten, 66?
Nick: Shit. SHIT. Why didn't you think of that Darby, what do I pay you for!
Presenter: So which is your favourite song, between all three of you, is there one?
Nick: Well, we're all quite fond of 'That Special Lady', we won't mention who she is, but let's just say we're all quite well acquainted with her... if you know what I mean...
Simon: Oh yes, she is a special lady...
Clive: Is she still running RWB or can I do it now?
Presenter: And now we will...
Clive: I WROTE SLEEPING THE TRUTH TRUCK!
Presenter: Ahh yes, track two, explain this one to our listeners...
Nick: After the mellow opening song we wanted something gritty, Clive wrote and composed this one and it slotted in there nicely...
Simon: It's quite a heavy song, we got a lot of pots and pans and some wooden spoons, it makes a good sound, lots of bass.
Presenter: Lyrically, it's quite gruesome, why?
Nick: I haven't listened to it.
Presenter: The bit about using a carrier bag as a toilet.
Nick: What carrier bag?
Clive: Never mind...
Nick: The bag in the truth truck? Oh god... that's what was in that bag?It said Clive on the side, I thought it was food!?
Presenter: OK... One last thing, when is it released guys?
Simon: I'm printing the album covers right now, I ran out of ink, I tried shaking the cartridge but I dropped it and got some on the carpet, so I had to go out and buy some but it was really expensive so I had a look on the internet and found it a lot cheaper but I have to wait an extra five days, I thought it was worth it for a 50p saving.
Presenter: And now, exclusive to RadioRWB: NWA talk us though some of their favourite tracks on their new record:
Simon: Lost in the Meat Section of the Supermarket. This is about buying cheap meat in the supermarket, and it being expensive, it's what I consider cheap expensive meat. I really wanted to let people in on my pain of hovering around waiting for a cheap cut to come out, sometimes, I stick my finger into a pack and take it to the butcher to get it reduced, but sometimes they take it off me and say they can't sell it in that condition, not even reduced, it's very painful for me.
Clive: This was my song about living in the Truth truck, it's called Sleeping in the Truth Truck, and is about having to shit in a pot noodle and eat a carrier bag.. No, shit in a carrier bag and eat pot noodles made with cold water, for weeks on end.
Nick: We are the Indigenous British Champions. Ahh I wrote this one, it is about winning the European Elections back in 2009, it's a song aimed to boost morale amongst our ranks and remind them of the good old days and why they should send me more money, I sing about wanting to destroy the European Parliament from within, and then realising that it's actually quite a cushy number.
Nick: You Never Give me Enough of your Money. Another one about those greedy members, we send out letter after letter and just never get anything back, it costs us more to send them out most of the time.
Nick: Fixing a Hole. This one is about the burden of having to keep a massive farm house and estate in good working condition. Things always need renewing, replacing, fixing etc. It's just a nuisance. I wanted to get this across, so that people everywhere know how hard it is for me and why they send me more money or at least come round and tidy up or something!
Simon: That Special Lady. This is a personal one, written by all three of us, just listen to Clive doing his Beach Boys whaaa-whooo-whoooo-whaaaa in the background, it makes your heart melt. I hope she hears of it and thinks of me.
Nick: Together. Another song aimed at rallying the troops, I sing about how we can all do this together if we have more money, trust is a big thing in politics, and if you can trust us to spend your money on saving the British people then we can save the British people, those indigenous to these islands after the last ice age but before 1066.
Presenter: That's brilliant. Thanks for that. I'm sure our listeners will be rattling the doors of HMV in the morning. OK, one last thing before we go guys, are you aware there is already a music act out there called NWA...
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